Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Good morning all Can anyone tell me why I seem to have Waring Points Please see attatched image Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 you have 0 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 you have 0 points haha, Is that information was private before? ¿no? That is, only the moderators could see. ¿no? Sorry for my English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Yes, but what does it mean? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 haha, Is that information was private before? ¿no? That is, only the moderators could see. ¿no? Yea nadie, today is a good day to celebrate our US Labor day holiday. Seems they did the forum upgrade day before a holiday. Suspect the ps team all on the PrestaShop yacht in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 El Patron, Nadie, It seems you know but I do not It seems to have happened after a reply to a topic Any clues please as it does not look good Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 El Patron, Nadie, It seems you know but I do not It seems to have happened after a reply to a topic Any clues please as it does not look good Paul Dear Paulito Do not worry high warning = Very bad Warning Under == Excellent Warning Points = Warnings for failing to meet the forum rules. You have 0 warning == All perfect Sorry for my English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ok, but why do I have this warning visible to others no one else has this warning visible Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Obviously this is a new change to the forum... now you can review your warnings. I think before if a community member was given a warning they didn't even know about it. That's my guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ah, Ok, are you saying that the warning is only visible to me? or is the warning visible to other forum members? I do not have a problem with this but it does not look good to other members Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ah, Ok, are you saying that the warning is only visible to me? or is the warning visible to other forum members? I do not have a problem with this but it does not look good to other members Paul This information is private only for moderators and prestashop team. I think at this moment you can only see their own warning, but really should not see them. ----- There is a problem in the forum, I hope the PrestaShop Team, it resolved soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Thank you for your reply,,, at least now I can understand. I appreciate their is a problem with the forum, I have posted as such HERE earlier today Again, thank you for your explanation Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think the each community member should see their warning level...else how would they every know they have been warned? reminds me of a movie, here is the clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think the each community member should see their warning level...else how would they every know they have been warned? reminds me of a movie, here is the clip When a user is warned, the system send message private you've been warned. I think That This Information, as in the past Should be totally private and only for moderation and prestashop team Sorry for my English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Yes, like the clip, It was just a surprise, I have not seen this on the forum before, Paul I agree with Nadie, if you have made a mistake surely the first thing to do is give a warning in private, not to publish to the world Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think the each community member should see their warning level...else how would they every know they have been warned? reminds me of a movie, here is the clip I feel the same way. However, Paulito, are you able to see the warnings of anybody else? If not then that is good. The only problem is previous warnings given by Moderators may be a little too "candid" and may have shocked some of the members. That said, in this new system, Moderators have two fields when they Warn a member. 1) A message to the member 2) a message to the moderators That way we can warn members directly and also explain the warnings to the moderators as well. I hope all is okay! Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Paulito Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 No, I cannot see any other members warning. It was just a surprise to see it Perhaps a new topic about forum changes would be a good idea or have I missed it Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vekia Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think the changes are going in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think the changes are going in the right direction Thanks Milos! We are still ironing out several small issues that have been reported from our community and our team. Overall, the warning functions are here to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) I would like to see any rules about these Warning points. I got 2 - first completely without any explanation 3 months ago and second for my critical description of very old problems (truth is not allowed in the forum?). How many warning points I can get before to be banned? Edited September 12, 2013 by tuk66 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vekia Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 you've got 2 warnings for paid modules advertisements in sections where advertising paid stuff aren't allowed. You don't see reasons there, when you click on your warnings? maybe it's a bug, someone from PS team can verify it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Maybe the problem is somewhere else. We all do business here, PrestaShop, you, me. Users can value free help which get on the forum. Relevant advertising links are not the same as plain spam. I am not spamming. Let's stop pretending that there is charity here. Edited September 12, 2013 by tuk66 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vekia Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 well, when i click on your "2 warning points" i see there "reasons" described by moderators (you see Mod name?) who admitted these warnings - you can always ask them WHY I agree with your opinion that some links to sites are very valuable and should not be regarded as spam. Especially, if they are useful in the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It's a little debatable whether or not there was a reason to Warn you. It's my opinion that Moderators should unapprove and PM the offender first, and then Warn if the problem persists. Overall, you get banned at 10 Warning Points but obviously a CM would have to approve and intervene if necessary. Hardly do members get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Admins and their warning points. Hmm. At least uneven using of this. Can I send tons of other users who post external and commercial links and have got no warning point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vekia Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 you can send reports under each of post you can find button . If you think that someone breaking the rules - do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Admins and their warning points. Hmm. At least uneven using of this. Can I send tons of other users who post external and commercial links and have got no warning point? but you can not see 'others' warnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Really? vekia wrote: when i click on your "2 warning points"... so only admins/moderators can view my "score"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Really? vekia wrote: when i click on your "2 warning points"... so only admins/moderators can view my "score"? I am 'fairly' sure only moderators and the the actual community member can see warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I am 'fairly' sure only moderators and the the actual community member can see warnings. That is true. Now when you warn someone you must send a message to both the member you are warning, and a separate message to the moderating team. It is all done from the single warning screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 That is true. Now when you warn someone you must send a message to both the member you are warning, and a separate message to the moderating team. It is all done from the single warning screen. I've very seldom ever even thought of warning anyone...this is one of the more civilized forums I've seen in a long time. Try hanging in any of the Colombia forums, they will try to eat your liver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Enrique Gómez Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've been not warned, but I find by chance that a link to M4 PDF (what a coincidence) in the job section which was obviously valuable because he was looking for a module to print labels, has been deleted by a moderator. I don't have any relation with the M4 PDF creator http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/274961-job-integrated-labels/?do=findComment&comment=1381946 I think I was not breaking any rule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 It may be because the module was not found to be valuable to the original poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've been not warned, but I find by chance that a link to M4 PDF (what a coincidence) in the job section which was obviously valuable because he was looking for a module to print labels, has been deleted by a moderator. I don't have any relation with the M4 PDF creator http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/274961-job-integrated-labels/?do=findComment&comment=1381946 I think I was not breaking any rule... That is just odd...just change it back... and see what happens as the post seemed fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I have got 2 warning points for commercial external links. I note that related to topic. So it is illegal only for common users, I think. Look at http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/275884-downloadable-products-with-diferent-codes/?view=findpost&p=1384436 and I have many many similar examples too. PrestaTeam members I have an idea. Change the rule: External linksIn forums other than "Paid Modules, Themes and Job Offers", links to a site offering paying products are prohibited.In the “Paid modules, job offers and paid services" forum, any link must point precisely to the relevant product page. or suppress guilt consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 indus Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 If a person with 1857 posts is getting warnings, then things surely dont seem right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 vekia Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 why? in my opinion rules are the same for everyone here, no matter how many posts you've got and what is your status on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 indus Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) As tuk66 has pointed out, your rules are vague. He has given a good example above. Many users have their own commercial website links in their signature. Rules are the same for everyone ? really ? Of course, i dont mind the links since i find some of them useful, maybe you should revise your rules to make it more clear. Here is a good example by a community manager himself http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/196335-presta-15-is-stable-or-still-beta-for-a-fresh-install/?do=findComment&comment=1386143 Of course ill repeat i dont mind it, but doesnt that go against your rules ? Edited September 19, 2013 by indus (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 As tuk66 has pointed out, your rules are vague. He has given a good example above. Many users have their own commercial website links in their signature. Rules are the same for everyone ? really ? Of course, i dont mind the links since i find some of them useful, maybe you should revise your rules to make it more clear. Here is a good example by a community manager himself http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/196335-presta-15-is-stable-or-still-beta-for-a-fresh-install/?do=findComment&comment=1386143 Of course ill repeat i dont mind it, but doesnt that go against your rules ? Hi indus, the service I posted is because we've had a long standing relationship and partnership with Cart 2 Cart and they are our preferred Migration service that we recommend. As Community Manager for PrestaShop, and a PrestaShop employee. I hold full accountability over the rules and the actions of our members/moderators. I agree that the rules are broken or not understood/not even read by many people. If a member is specifically asking for a module, then you can point them to a link on our Paid Modules forum. However, if that module does not have a thread in the Paid Modules section, it should not link to an external website. If a member is not specifically asking for a module, then any post containing a link to a module is not allowed. I will review the threads given. Just remember, you shouldn't post your paid modules or others paid modules unless it is a link to an INTERNAL forum thread or post. Most developers who have modules also have threads on the Paid Module section with their module. This is allowed. However, EXTERNAL links to paid modules and services are not allowed unless they are specifically asked by the Original Poster. If the poster is not asking for a module or service, then it is better off letting them know that you have modules/services available, and link them to an internal forum post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Benjamin, you broke your own rule External linksIn forums other than "Paid Modules, Themes and Job Offers", links to a site offering paying products are prohibited.In the “Paid modules, job offers and paid services" forum, any link must point precisely to the relevant product page. at http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/242628-switching-from-volusion-to-prestashop/?view=findpost&p=1385799 Tell me please how should I behave? I am confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Another contribution to the discussion about the absurdity of these rules. I am reporting himself: http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/279436-how-to-download-the-invoices-in-the-backoffice-with-the-currency-of-the-selle/?view=findpost&p=1404506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Another contribution to the discussion about the absurdity of these rules. I am reporting himself: http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/279436-how-to-download-the-invoices-in-the-backoffice-with-the-currency-of-the-selle/?view=findpost&p=1404506 ok, as punishment...drop and give us 20 push ups also thanks for all the help you provide the community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks El Patron, I preventively did 50 for future redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks El Patron, I preventively did 50 for future redemption. so you have banked 30...nobody sees the darn warnings except us egg head mods...I certainly understand your point as I have broken the same rule dozens of times...did not even know about it really until this post....it's hard not to post a link to our solutions, if one has any passion about it....it would be different I think if we spammed some facebook widget that there are many of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Of course, many people do it. I just do not want to wake up one morning and find that I am a criminal and banned forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Of course, many people do it. I just do not want to wake up one morning and find that I am a criminal and banned forever. That is very exaggerated. Sorry for my English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Are you sure? I have got one warning point silently in June and second one within several days when this information has been displayed (for me). I will have 10 points before the end of this year at this rate with one sentence "Sorry, this is the rule". Or I will post crazy posts like "sorry I can't write the name and URL too but try to google something like ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Are you sure? Yes. PD: I Not know his own case, but the word "criminal", I think a very serious word. Sorry for my English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) So then I don't understand for what Warning points are and why my posts are removed when I put in a link to an external site (relevant one which can help). Rules are rules. Could I understand that these rules are not strictly required? Failure to respect these rules on multiple occasions could lead to you being banned from the forum. I like rules like this one. Multiple - twice or two hundred? Edited October 4, 2013 by tuk66 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hi tuk66, I personally do not sell modules or services, or templates in the prestashop forum, but true, That many times is normally recommend a module or template for cases that require. Sorry for my English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nadie Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hi tuk66, I think the forum rules have to be more explicit in some cases. Sorry for my English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tuk66 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 ... but the word "criminal", I think a very serious word. Of course, it is a hyperbole but how can I feel that many many people contravene these rules and my posts are removed when I try to help. I would like to only open a discussion about this but it is not probably suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MEG Venture Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would like to see any rules about these Warning points. I got 2 - first completely without any explanation 3 months ago and second for my critical description of very old problems (truth is not allowed in the forum?). How many warning points I can get before to be banned? I am at the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 PrestaHeroes USA Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I am closing this topic. If you receive a warning and disagree please contact any community manager. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 benjamin utterback Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 +1 . We do have partnerships with certain services, like our Hosting and Payment Partners. Please understand that because of this, PrestaShop is able to suggest our own partnerships on our own forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Can anyone tell me why I seem to have Waring Points
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