HandCraft Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) With so many bugs n complains about latest version, really scaring to upgrade to latest version. Currently we are using 1.3.3 so what will be better? 3 Options 1. To be on safer side by upgrading to 1.4.9 2. To upgarde to 1.5.2 3. To fresh install 1.5.2 I guess in OPTION 3, we will lose all existing customer, product database. Right? Plz guide. Thnx in advance!!! +++++++++++++ Finally I decided to go for 1.5x and seems my search for skilled developer is finished. Edited November 7, 2012 by Handcraft.co.in (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If i have make decision i migrate to 1.5. But i do this on one my shop and i prefer upgrade to 1.4 and after this make upgrade to 1.5 Whan i do upgrade from 1.3 to 1.5 direct upgrade was crash I thing is better fight with presta than lost all acounts clients and reputation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 1.5.2 already realease? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yes i have on servers right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamtheme Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hello there, I think that if you are not eager to use the new "multi-store" function, it's best to stick with 1.4.9 for some time. When 1.5.x is stable enough then you can upgrade. And remember always do backup. Regards, Dreamtheme 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) fiuh....!!! it's good or not? when this version be stable ? hihihihi!!! Edited October 24, 2012 by jesen (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urecheatu007 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) I think your best bet is to do a manual update in a local installation, see what get's broken, redo the theme and do the same stept again agains the live server. Tip: you can export the new theme with the modified modules and reimport them in the new live after the upgrade. For the fixes, you'll mainly need to verify the accesss table, migrate the images to the new format and verify all the settings in the admin area. PS: if you get sql errors in the upgrare process, save them and verify them with phpmyadmin or something similar. PS2: to do a manual upgrade you overwrite the curent files with the new ones and go to /install/upgrade/upgrade.php - it will return a lot of xml stuff, read it and take note on what went wrong to correct manually. I have done this successfully - from 1.3.1 to 1.5. Edited October 24, 2012 by urecheatu007 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dh42 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Right now, I still deploy shops with 1.4.9. Other than the pay pal module not working, it seems stable enough. I have a few high volume clients using it and it seems to actually be working better than 1.4.8.3. So I would upgrade to 1.4.9 than to upgrade to 1.5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 jesen I don't know which software which i stable on the world always You find errors bugs urecheatu007 good write in tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleD Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) With so many bugs n complains about latest version, really scaring to upgrade to latest version. Currently we are using 1.3.3 so what will be better? 3 Options 1. To be on safer side by upgrading to 1.4.9 2. To upgarde to 1.5.2 3. To fresh install 1.5.2 I guess in OPTION 3, we will lose all existing customer, product database. Right? Plz guide. Thnx in advance!!! I would definitely prefer to upgrade to 1.5 I've upgraded one of my shops from 1.4.8 by (script, 1-click upgrade messed up everything) and have not doubt 1.5 is a better choice. But, it depends... Wether you have any modules/customizations (not of them might work on 1.5) You will have to modify your theme for 1.5 What i suggest you to do is try it out before you go... I.E. Install and upgrade your existing shop on localhost. About bugs... well there are plenty of bugs in 1.3 also ) Conclusion: At some point, You will have to upgrade to 1.5 anyway, so i suggest you to start now About fresh install: If you didn't modify your database manually and your database is clean then, i think, there is no need to do fresh install... Edited October 24, 2012 by doubleD (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 i think 1.5.1 is stable. i tried everything is fine!heheheh!! but now v 1.5.2 is realease. need do testing it 1st. hiks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleD Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I guess in OPTION 3, we will lose all existing customer, product database. Right? Plz guide. Thnx in advance!!! Not necessary, you can upgrade your database and then transfer customers, orders to fresh install... But this option will be not the easy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dh42 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 None of the 2.5 releases are stable. If 1.5.1 was stable there wouldn't be a 1.5.2 that has over 100 bug fixes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 None of the 2.5 releases are stable. If 1.5.1 was stable there wouldn't be a 1.5.2 that has over 100 bug fixes.. Look upper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 None of the 2.5 releases are stable. If 1.5.1 was stable there wouldn't be a 1.5.2 that has over 100 bug fixes.. I see.... i seee so what your opinion to be update or stay on ps1.5.1 thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vynx Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 1.5.1 have security vulnerability ... check at forge ... 1.5.2 not yet full tested .... 1.4.9 last stable but if you see 1.5.x feature then you will forget 1.4.x version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleD Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 None of the 2.5 releases are stable. If 1.5.1 was stable there wouldn't be a 1.5.2 that has over 100 bug fixes.. Come'ON... Read the CHANGELOG over 100 bug fixes? really? To Jesen: I suggest you to upgrade, there are only minor fixes, mostly for backoffice There is even only 1 sql query in upgrade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 thank for attention!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 All is worked in fast review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urecheatu007 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I still stand for my advice. As for the stability of Prestashop 1.5, come on, you should try Magento to see some ugly bugs. Prestashop is about the best opensource cart available, and the only one with supplier / stock management done right. Ofcourse there are things missing, features incomplete, bugs and so on, but you must take into account the whole picture. Back to your problem at hand. You will have to redo the theme in either case (1.4 / 1.5). You will need to verify / upgrade / replace modules in either case. There is no magic wand, not in the web app world. In conclusion, your best bet is to go directly to 1.5, manual upgrade in localhost, do what is needed to make the store work correctly and replicate the steps on the live server (preferably some time during the early hours of the night when the traffic is minimal on your site.) Take into account that you can export the new theme with the modules from the localhost install and import them directly after the upgrade. Also you can write down the sql queries needed to correct the database after the eventual errors and run them from phpmyadmin. If you need modification to core stuff, you have the override system. Use it! and copy them to live after the upgrade. If you follow my steps you should be allright and the actual upgrade on the live site should take somewhere in the 15-30 minutes interval. Tip: do not forget to migrate/regenerate the images on the live server and verify settings!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Magento the most people speek is the best etc i see and nerver i chose magento. Use lot of resources and i see when magentoo kill Dedicated Server but i work on Presta i have VPS with Postfix DNS etc and all is worked nice and apache inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogkalidis Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 i think 1.5.1 is stable. i tried everything is fine!heheheh!! I don't think so my friend.. You are the only one that says that everything in 1.5.1 is fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogkalidis Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Not necessary, you can upgrade your database and then transfer customers, orders to fresh install... But this option will be not the easy one This is not necessary.. You can back up your data and then install it the way you like (basically the way is possible ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrej Stas Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 With so many bugs n complains about latest version, really scaring to upgrade to latest version. Currently we are using 1.3.3 so what will be better? 3 Options 1. To be on safer side by upgrading to 1.4.9 2. To upgarde to 1.5.2 3. To fresh install 1.5.2 I guess in OPTION 3, we will lose all existing customer, product database. Right? Plz guide. Thnx in advance!!! I would suggest to create a beta subdomain - something like beta.your-eshop.com Then copy your current eshop there (+DB) and try to upgrade to 1.5.2 This way you can try the whole process without any risk. If everything goes well you just do the same process on your main domain your-eshop.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestaHeroes USA Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 With so many bugs n complains about latest version, really scaring to upgrade to latest version. Currently we are using 1.3.3 so what will be better? 3 Options 1. To be on safer side by upgrading to 1.4.9 2. To upgarde to 1.5.2 3. To fresh install 1.5.2 I guess in OPTION 3, we will lose all existing customer, product database. Right? Plz guide. Thnx in advance!!! My suggestion: Create a complete working test shop of your production shop. back up your test stie then practice your upgrade to 1.5.2 this takes the guessing out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premanshu Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I still have doubts on 1.5.2 on upgrade procedure. I tried upgrade from 1.4.x to 1.5.8,1.5.17,1.5.1 and had a bad experience. I tried upgrade paths just to retain the customers data but all the time something wrong happened. So finally planned to sync the db table by table and converted my shop from 1.4.9 to 1.5.17 then to 1.5.1 and now on 1.5.2. In manually upgrading my shop from 1.4.9 to 1.5.17 I was able to retain my customers data and everything but customers passwords were not working anymore and they had to go through forgot password option to generate new passwords. Luckily I didn't had much customers at that time but I cannot take this risk now. Anyway there is big difference between 1.3.x and 1.5.2 in terms of modules and coding. If you are using core prestashop modules then better upgrade to 1.4.9 and stay there for awhile, test if everything is working fine and wait till 1.5.x 1-click upgrade stabilizes and then turn your shop to 1.5.x via upgrade. If you are using custom modules and have some extra coding in the core files then better make a test site and play directly on 1.5.x. 1.5.2 feels far stable for those who are already on 1.5.x. For the ones who are on 1.3.x or 1.4.x, I will say wait for some more time if you already have a big customer database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGraph Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 hello again, if you want to use 1.5.1 or 1.5.2 in production it is up to you, but have a look on the forge before... still more than 500 bugs to fix.. i won't call that a Stable release, right ? 1.4.9 is having some issues but it works fine.. otherwise i use 1.4.5.1 on few websites.. and i think this is one of the best release for production. Best Regards, Zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 >> still more than 500 bugs to fix. not ALL of them are confirmed BUGS most are some certain person problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGraph Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 right.. there is only 369 real problems to solve ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Interesting.....well if I get good capable developer then only I will go for 1.5x else it seems risky as of now. I have many things customized so upgrading to 1.4x is also going to become headache for me so thought to go for 1.5x. But need to reconsider my decision coz as shop owner, i must concentrate more on sell than bugs. Right?? Thanks to all who gave valuable suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharlie Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like El Patrons idea, however, I would go with 1.4.9 instead of jumping to 1.5 Set up a development environment, either a local wamp or a cheap hosting, make backups of your working site files and database, restore them to the development area, and then perform the upgrade in development. Make sure it all works, then back *that* up, back up your live site again, install the newly developed site in production..tada.. you could even try the 1.5 upgrade in development as well to see if you like it and if it upgrades smoothly if you want the newest version.. I prefer to stay a few back and let the bugs get worked out before I run with it. Good Luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestaHeroes USA Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 if you have a base test shop to play with you can try any number of versions...doesn't matter..otherwise you and anyone else is just guessing.. but you should compare your test site files to an upacked native ps of the same version. Because who remembers what hacks they or someone else did...and this my community friends is typically why one-click upgrade fails...user modified ps...remove any hacks possible...go as vanilla as humany possible. This forum would be dead if not for all the hacked ps shops out there. suerte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 True but as I mentioned I am store owner n not developer so to play with 1.5x I will need some expert developer. If everyday I have to play with bugs then it will shift my focus from selling to bugs. Right Elaptron?? if you have a base test shop to play with you can try any number of versions...doesn't matter..otherwise you and anyone else is just guessing.. but you should compare your test site files to an upacked native ps of the same version. Because who remembers what hacks they or someone else did...and this my community friends is typically why one-click upgrade fails...user modified ps...remove any hacks possible...go as vanilla as humany possible. This forum would be dead if not for all the hacked ps shops out there. suerte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Finally I decided NOT to go for 1.5x till it becomes really stable. But if in case I have to go for it, any idea from where can I find capable n skilled developer who can take my shop from 1.3.3 to 1.5x ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tczaude Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Warm topic Just Do It and tell whats heppend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejo Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 alread using autoupgrade!! It's Better right now in beta version. completely update on live hosting. make it faster and easy. thank , but not yet tried mobile device! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Mobile Online Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 With so many bugs n complains about latest version, really scaring to upgrade to latest version. Currently we are using 1.3.3 so what will be better? 3 Options 1. To be on safer side by upgrading to 1.4.9 2. To upgarde to 1.5.2 3. To fresh install 1.5.2 I guess in OPTION 3, we will lose all existing customer, product database. Right? Plz guide. Thnx in advance!!! Hi, I had presta 1.1 and it worked fine, but I noticed the need, after a couple of years, of "fresh gear" to my site. So I tried the update version, it didn't work. The remaining choice was to fresh instal presta 1.5.1 (later easy update to 1.5.2). I had the customers saved and imported with a module. If you need it, i can share it ( Export des Clients v0.1). I installed presta 1.5.1 and then i entered manually all my products again... Only the custumers remained in the new shop from the old one. Best regards! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Seems best reply coz you have experienced it............will need your help. You are shop owner or developer?? Hi, I had presta 1.1 and it worked fine, but I noticed the need, after a couple of years, of "fresh gear" to my site. So I tried the update version, it didn't work. The remaining choice was to fresh instal presta 1.5.1 (later easy update to 1.5.2). I had the customers saved and imported with a module. If you need it, i can share it ( Export des Clients v0.1). I installed presta 1.5.1 and then i entered manually all my products again... Only the custumers remained in the new shop from the old one. Best regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhobur Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Maybe you should wait for a few more days to see if the new 1.5.2.0 performs better as upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilafitness Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I tryed prestashop manager from magneticone to import products from my 1.4.9 shop, I see the products in the manager, but in BO the products don't have images and are on visible on front office neither can be indexed for seach...it's like they don't exist. Anybody has a solution for importing products? And about bugs...I got a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Kvasnytska Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I tryed prestashop manager from magneticone to import products from my 1.4.9 shop, I see the products in the manager, but in BO the products don't have images and are on visible on front office neither can be indexed for seach...it's like they don't exist. Anybody has a solution for importing products? And about bugs...I got a lot Hello, Mobilafitness! Store Manager for PrestaShop is fully compatible with PrestaShop versions 1.4.x and 1.5.x, so the products should be reflected correctly. There may be the issue with your template or incorrect upgrade of shopping cart which resulted in inability to see the data. In any case, please, contact our support team - http://www.prestashopmanager.com/support-center/contact-us so we could check the issue for you. Waiting to hear from you soon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilafitness Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I tryed fresh install of 1.4.9, 1.5.1, 1.5.2 and importing products with Store Manager for PrestaShop, on local and online server with no success, the products are importing, but the images just for 50% of them and having problems indexing. Store Manager for PrestaShop is a very good program I used it often in 1.4.9, but I always fail when moving products to other store. Anyway I will make a report. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Finally I decided to go for 1.5x and seems my search for skilled developer is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binitish Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Finally I decided NOT to go for 1.5x till it becomes really stable. But if in case I have to go for it, any idea from where can I find capable n skilled developer who can take my shop from 1.3.3 to 1.5x ??? Contact @9828083357 Based out of India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thnx but this one is based in India or out of India????? Contact @9828083357 Based out of India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandCraft Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thnx but this one is based in India or out of India????? Contact @9828083357 Based out of India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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