The Important, but MISSING, PS ability

[kevin13952]

Prestashop is one of the most powerful, easiest to use and cheapest platforms available. I am very happy with most everything about prestashop......EXCEPT one thing.

 

 

PS makes adjusting prices to indicate a sales discount rather difficult and cumbersome. It might be ok for the shop that has a few dozen items. But for a shop like mine with 100,00 items spread across about 300 categories, with  profit margins ranging from 10% to 110%......

 

Well, let's just say that Prestashop offers NOTHING simple or dynamic in regards to offering sales and not going below my cost of goods price.

 

Example:

 

I can create a Price Rule and give all customers in a specific group a discount....we'll say 35% discount for this group. If they get 35% off of an item that I make a 110% margin on....that's great! They get a good price and I still make a good profit. WIN WIN.

 

But if they get a 35% discount off of the items that I only make a 10% margin on.....THAT'S NOT GOOD! I'm losing money on those items!

 

YES....PS has the ability to set "specific prices" for specific groups for each item individually. But again...I have over 100,000 items and over 300 categories.

 

So a Price Rule by category isn't an efficient option.

A specific price per item isn't an efficient option.

 

If I handle the markup from my wholesale price and then import that as the retail price....it doesn't show the retail price along with a discount in the front end.

 

If I keep the Retail Price as the actual Retail Price in order to show a price and discount (which helps the customer understand that my prices are lower than other places), then PS doesn't show a discount percentage or amount UNLESS I set a group Price Rule (across the board and losing money on low margin items)/...... or unless I go through the tedious, time consuming process of setting and importing 100,000 specific prices.

 

And then....Specific Prices might need to be deleted if a wholesale cost.... or a retail price changes.

 

In an ideal world....A perfect world....(yes I know it;s not a perfect world)....

 

Prestashop should have a field for the Wholesale Price...a field for the Retail Price.... and the ability to mass edit ALL products prices to a specific markUP from wholesale.

 

This would still display the retail price to the consumer ALONG WITH the Selling price...ALONG WITH the DISCOUNT percentage/amount.

 

Thus making it easier for the customer to see their actual savings and increase the chance of them purchasing.

 

I would LOVE to have a module that would allow for such a MARKUP from wholesale instead of the only existing option of markDOWN from retail.

 

If anyone knows of such a module or is able to create such a module, please let me know!

Thank you!

[Santori]

Kevin, I know the theme that you are speaking about...

I had this problem in my store but I resolved it.

First you must adquire a prestashop manager software to manage your store with your pc.

After this create a new database table with all the data you need, whole saleprice, final price, benefit etc,,and create an sql function that put offers in base of the margin in your products. 

Thats the way to have all the offers in your with correct discounts, even if your margin changes your discount offer increases, decreases or dissapear.

[kevin13952]

Thats an expensive way to go considering all Prestashop needs to do is add a selling price field and the problem is solved.

 

Yes I know that means a lot of recoding. But seriously, Unless you sell your products ONLY at Retail or at Cost, then you're selling at a price other than one of those two. Which means, EVERY product has three price fields: Wholesale, Retail and Selling Price.

 

But Prestashop in their infinite wisdom decided that we shouldn't be able to import our catalog with the selling price already calculated in our CSV file. Instead we have to go through laborious steps to first import the catalog, then take the catalog CSV file and run an excel forumla on the fields to compensate for the difference between our markup from wholesale and our retail price, then save that file in very small bites of 1500 or less rows (because PS times out regardless of what settings my host changes it to for me), then spend hours uploading the MANY multiple files and importing them into PS.

 

All because they left out one little price field.

 

But wait! you can spend hundreds of dollars on a product (StoreManager) that didn't work when I downloaded the test version.

 

Amazing!

[Santori]

Hello; I have the store manager, but to manage it may you need help.

Is not easy but you can do a perfect import o thousands of article every day.

Regards.

[kevin13952]

Again I'll point out that this is a SUPER SIMPLE FIX if Prestashop would simply add a third price field as the selling price, OR make the Price Rules module capable of setting the displayed selling price as a markUP from wholesale.

 

THAT would fix this for EVERYBODY who downloads the default Prestashop script.

 

But maybe that's why they won't do that? Because it would remove an avenue of revenue....regardless of making their shopping cart more powerful and customizable than ANY other cart you can get.

[Naldinho]

I understand what you're trying to do but this isn't something that people would typically need so I can't see PrestaShop seeing it as a top priority. When it comes to off-the-shelf software you basically have to assume that if you have a peculiar need it is on you to modify it.This is a pretty simple thing to modify yourself or if you don't feel comfortable with that you can pay someone to do it.

[kevin13952]

So you're saying that the majority of people, in this highly competitive world of internet commerce....only sell their products at either full retail....or absolute cost? That they have no need to set a selling price that is based on an absolute markup percentage from cost?

 

That they are able to set a default Group discount that might sell their products at less than their cost and still be happy with that?

 

Or that the vast majority of people using prestashop, sell only a few items that they manually create and have no need to import hundreds or even thousands of products with a selling price higher than cost yet lower than retail?

 

Seriously?

 

I've been in management for over 30 years. Been in business for myself for 26 years. AND NEVER......EVER..... based my selling prices on markDOWN from retail.

 

A good business model ALWAYS bases their prices on profitability of a markUP from cost basis.

 

Coincidentally, that is the feature which Prestashop is not able to provide.