New Reactivation Fee: Price of the Business Care subscription + 95% of the Addon price alone

[bloggus]

I just wanted to say:

That's how you do it!
The "Trump-way": make Prestashop great! 

 

Wonder is most of the sales of modules, will now happen on the developers own sites? Why reactivate on Addons, just buy the module direct from the developer. Great way to move the sales away from Addons!

 

Edited March 5 by bloggus (see edit history)

[c64girl]

This is another reason to abandon this ridiculous marketplace platform altogether. Which, as I've had the opportunity to find out several times, has nothing to do with user security. In several modules I have found links to third-party .js or exploits that are hidden by the authors in such a way that they delete changelogs and provide only the patched version. Not to mention authors who release modules that break, overload or malfunction from the very beginning of the installation spoiling the store or work differently than they should and the author fixes such bugs on the fly.

Edited March 5 by c64girl (see edit history)

[bloggus]

Well, I don't have anything against the developers, but the reactivation price is pure stupidity or .... ?

"Price of the Business Care subscription + 95% of the Addon price alone" means that a €70- module on Addons, will cost like €95 to reactivate the updates for?

Reactivation fee is more than the price of the module itself?

[Knowband Plugins]

I think the Price of the addons includes the module cost + business care subscription for the 1st year.

So €70 includes the module price + business care price (i.e. $50 module cost + €20 subscription). I believe the reactivation for the updates will cost 95% of €50 + €20.

I might be wrong.

 

 

[bloggus]

12 minutes ago, Knowband Plugins said:

I think the Price of the addons includes the module cost + business care subscription for the 1st year.

So €70 includes the module price + business care price (i.e. $50 module cost + €20 subscription). I believe the reactivation for the updates will cost 95% of €50 + €20.

I might be wrong.

 

 

Well is says "+ 95% of the Addon price alone" which is the total price that was paid for the module. That means that the reactivation fee will always be higher than the module price initially or even current price if the price has not been raised. 

It depends how the define "the Addon price alone" .... that is not defined anywhere.

If you are right, the reactivation fee will basically be same as buying the module again.

Edited March 5 by bloggus (see edit history)

[Mediacom87]

In my opinion, the reason for this change is that PrestaShop prefers people to use the annual BusinessCare subscription on modules, since it only returns 50% of the amount paid by the buyer to the contributor.

If a merchant decides to take out a module again, it's mainly to take advantage of a new feature or simply because they've migrated to a new version of PrestaShop. Both of these factors require development effort on the part of the contributor. It doesn't really shock me that the customer has to pay for his module again, even though he bought it years ago.

What also needs to be emphasized is that every purchase on Addons is also used to finance the development teams at the heart of PrestaShop, in order to keep the solution evolving. If this portion of the funding disappears, PrestaShop S.A. runs the risk of either disappearing or offering only a paid version of its solution.

[bloggus]

Ths issue I have with modules, that are basicall never updated. Small irrelevant updates or modules I have that has not been updated for 12-14 months. Paying BusinessCare subscription on modules like that is just a waste of money. There are plenty modules, where the fuctionality is basically what is it. The developer only makes changes with major Prestashop version. That's it. Nothing wrong with it, but BusinessCare subscription is of no use.

 

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What also needs to be emphasized is that every purchase on Addons is also used to finance the development teams at the heart of PrestaShop, in order to keep the solution evolving. If this portion of the funding disappears, PrestaShop S.A. runs the risk of either disappearing or offering only a paid version of its solution.

Right. So more people buying outside Addons, will lead to the same result as what you wrote. Different pricing, same end result.

I think this will lead to more people abandon Addons, both for modules and themes. If somebody have to renew a 70 € module for 68 € + VAT (in not a registered company in EU), they will surely buy it instead from the developer directly for the $49-59 instead that they are charging. 

[bloggus]

13 minutes ago, Mediacom87 said:

In my opinion, the reason for this change is that PrestaShop prefers people to use the annual BusinessCare subscription on modules, since it only returns 50% of the amount paid by the buyer to the contributor.

I though the cut Addons charge is 35%, so the contributor gets 65%? 

[Mediacom87]

il y a 3 minutes, bloggus a dit :

Ths issue I have with modules, that are basicall never updated. Small irrelevant updates or modules I have that has not been updated for 12-14 months. Paying BusinessCare subscription on modules like that is just a waste of money. There are plenty modules, where the fuctionality is basically what is it. The developer only makes changes with major Prestashop version. That's it. Nothing wrong with it, but BusinessCare subscription is of no use.

That's why BusinessCare can be deactivated: if the module doesn't get any updates during that year, there's no point in keeping it, and the module is bought back the day it's needed.

il y a 4 minutes, bloggus a dit :

Right. So more people buying outside Addons, will lead to the same result as what you wrote. Different pricing, same end result.

I think this will lead to more people abandon Addons, both for modules and themes. If somebody have to renew a 70 € module for 68 € + VAT (in not a registered company in EU), they will surely buy it instead from the developer directly for the $49-59 instead that they are charging. 

Some users find it useful to centralize all their module purchases on Addons, as this allows them to be informed of updates, the end of their BusinessCare subscription, and above all, to know where to buy the module if necessary, so they don't have to waste time exploring where, with which account, they bought this or that module.

il y a 3 minutes, bloggus a dit :

I though the cut Addons charge is 35%, so the contributor gets 65%? 

Addons takes a maximum of 40% on modules, with this figure decreasing according to two parameters: the sales generated by the contributor over the last 6 months, and whether the contributor is a partner.
On the BusinessCare part, only 50% is paid out, so PrestaShop has every interest in favoring BusinessCare.

[bloggus]

3 minutes ago, Mediacom87 said:

On the BusinessCare part, only 50% is paid out, so PrestaShop has every interest in favoring BusinessCare.

So in conclusion:

- on BusinessCare part: PrestaShop makes best magins == winner
- on new Reactivation Fee and new BusinessCare: both Prestashop and contributor makes more obviously, since both cuts increase for both of them  == winner
- buyer get screwed, since Prestashop wants to push in favoring of BusinessCare nad punish those who don't use it  == looser

I think the stream of buyers outside Addons have already begun, and will only increase. 

[Knowband Plugins]

2 hours ago, bloggus said:

I think the stream of buyers outside Addons have already begun, and will only increase. 

That might not be the case. I believe many users buy from the addons to protect their rights as well. In case of any fault etc, the addon is there to support OR refund. 

Anyway, one "Trump-way" move for the seller as well. Addons is forcing to have the UK/EUROPE bank account to do sell on the addons. Many of the sellers might not have a UK/Europe bank account, so they have to stop selling on the addons. 

[bloggus]

38 minutes ago, Knowband Plugins said:

That might not be the case. I believe many users buy from the addons to protect their rights as well. In case of any fault etc, the addon is there to support OR refund. 

Really? Not my experience and I guess you have to be a buyer not a seller to make a statement like that

 

39 minutes ago, Knowband Plugins said:

Anyway, one "Trump-way" move for the seller as well. Addons is forcing to have the UK/EUROPE bank account to do sell on the addons. Many of the sellers might not have a UK/Europe bank account, so they have to stop selling on the addons. 

Maybe so. Have no clue. But there are plenty of Russian developers on Addons with account in Kazakstan and other countries. 

[yama]

> Not my experience and I guess you have to be a buyer not a seller to make a statement like that.

 

I'm a buyer. For sure addon it's not perfect but more secure than some website's "dev" where there is trick rules or just scam.

 

About the 95%, if we are buyers, It's a huge UP of the price but to be honest, I thought twice about that.

Example for a module as Migration Pro who cost 140 EUR.

Before the update of addon, it cost for me 40 EUR after one year. In my point of view, it's nice price.

But point of view of the dev who have to work (probably very annoying customer service, upgrade for each version of PS, etc), it's a bit low, just 40 EUR.

Now I have to pay once again the module but I have 5% discount.

I feel the problem was before this new rule. The 30% of the module was too low, it was not fair for seller.

So they increase to 95%, the difference is huge but maybe fairer for seller.

The platform give more opportunity to dev who leave the platform to comeback (it's a good thing for buyer too I guess).

[bloggus]

On 3/13/2025 at 9:58 PM, yama said:

Now I have to pay once again the module but I have 5% discount.

No you don't. You save less that 5%. Probabaly around 3,5%.

Basically you will be paying the price of a new purchase. 

For me it is simple; I'm done with Addons. I will buy directly from developers. If they don't sell outside Addons, I just choose another module.

 

[yama]

Good Luck.