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Thanks for the reply, but the thing is that if i put TLS andmake a test in the error I can ee that the url is still beginning with ssl:// as if it was harcoded somewhere and I do not have any module others than the native ones that could cae the issue , and sendmail would just not work anymore so I had to use an external smtp server which is no idea as it shouldall work fine by default but since we swapped to 9 emails stopped working as they should even on a fresh clean install, by default they do not work, and even with external smtp i have to send without encryption otherwise I get same issue, still see ssl:// by default in the error