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Hello everyone. This weekend we purchased over $800.00 in new add-on modules for our shop from PrestaShop Add-ons Store. PrestaShop was offering a 20% Christmas Discount on all PrestaShop owned modules and so we figured why not. We just recently updated to PrestaShop version 1.6.0.9 (and loving it) and so we figured what better time to “add on” a few new features. What a nightmare! Out of the 8 we purchased only two of them were basically without any real issues. All the rest were full of bugs. We managed to reach out to one of the developers in this process and they requested access to both our CPanel and the Admin section to our store. We were hesitating to do this but because we really did want the modules to work (I mean that is why we bought them after all, right?) we decided to give it a try. Well after many hours and emails and tries we still had to uninstall and delete in the end. They would fix two or three bugs and then another one or more would show up. In all of this we fought to be patient and kind but I have to tell you what is happening now is totally unacceptable!

 

First let me say something relating to these purchases. For one thing the sale had a voucher code. But when we went to our cart and tried to checkout, the place where you enter this code could not be found. We literally had three people in our office trying to find it. No luck. So we proceeded with our purchase thinking this would not be a problem. We thought all we would have to do is contact PrestaShop Customer Support first thing Monday morning and they would surely honor the discount and make everything right. NOT so. They refused to apply the discount telling us it was our mistake for not entering the code. When we asked them to point out where this code was supposed to be entered this was even more troubling. See the screenshot and look and see for yourself if you can find it. Either way to me this was a very innocent and honest oversight especially with the print being so very tiny and hard to see. I cannot for the life of me understand why they would refuse us this discount. One of my staff just pointed out to me that the voucher code field does not even show up and display our mobile devices. That would explain another reason  why at least two of us were not able to locate it. I am sorry I could not see where to add the attached screenshot I mentioned above. But you can go to the Add-on Store and check it out that way. 

 

Secondly from a customer’s point of view I feel if a module is being offered for sale and listed as “stable” and “compatible” with the version of PrestaShop that you are using then that is what it should be. I can understand and take into account that there might be problems if you are using some third party theme but if you are only using the default bootstrap then at a minimum it should not have so many issues like the ones we had. As a consumer I also should not be put in a position and asked or expected to become a beta tester for every developer who has an module to offer. But that is exactly what we are now being asked to do and PrestaShop Support is refusing to refund our monies even after we have uninstalled and deleted everything from our store. We likewise are not comfortable with allowing whoever it might be to use both our shops front and backend as a testing ground for them to work out their bugs and whatever else. We ran our shop through WC3 and Google PageSpeed and we were shocked at the amount of bad code we were shown from some of these modules.

 

We now have been left with no other alternative but to open a dispute through Paypal in the hope of finding some relief there. Merry Christmas to you too, PrestaShop Customer Support!

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Sure Live Chat By BELVG - Abandoned Cart Reminder Pro By PrestaShop. Each of these required some set up with a very minimal amount of tweaking and are all performing as hoped for.

 

I now must remove from the 2 modules that seemed to be working correctly the Live Chat Module. As we received a repot tonight from our Hosting Company saying we were nearing suspension on our account and that we were now being cashed for the next 12 hours. AND THIS IS ALL AFTER THE MODULE WAS UNINSTALLED AND DELETED FROM OUR SHOP BACKEND!

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Hello RobS,

 

I have spoken to our entire Addons Merchant Success Team in the US office and they are all completely familiar with your issues. They have already explained to you more than once what happened during your purchase and the 20%OFF PrestaShop Modules. If you have any other concerns with your modules, the best thing to do is to contact the Addons Team because they are the ones who work with Addons Modules and they will be able to assist you more than any of us through the forums.

 

Furthermore, the Merchant Success Team is here to help you through your future purchases, so make sure you talk to them before buying and not after! They will guide you and they will help you find the modules for exactly what you are looking for, so you won't make the mistake of buying something that doesn't fit your needs and then having to issue a complaint saying it doesn't work when it actually does and there is no real reason for the third party developer of the module to accept your refund. Let me remind you that if you buy a third party module, the developer of the module will make sure it works if you are facing any issues. If he can make it work within 3 business days (not holiday days), there is no reason for him to accept giving you a refund. So for all your modules that are not PRESTASHOP modules, contact the developers, let them help you and you should be good to go.

 

If you still have questions, the Addons team can give you more details. Please contact them directly in stead of going back and forth with any of the Community Managers on the forums, because we cannot help you more than they can.

 

I hope this clears your doubts.

 

Thank you very much.

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We have turned all this over to our Payment provider. It does not surprise us at this point that PrestaShop would now accuse us of telling lies "you won't make the mistake of buying something that doesn't fit your needs and then having to issue a complaint saying it doesn't work when it actually does". We have proof for our claims along with screenshots of many of our issues that were discovered but no one from PrestaShop including yourself even cared enough to ask us about this. Instead we are attacked and you-all stick together. We have contacted your CEO Mr. Leveque and hopefully he will look more into this whole matter of how you do business. Thank you for you time. 

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Hello Rob. 

 

Our job is to help you, not attack you. And for what you are quoting me, I never said this was the case for you. I generally gave you advice on how to handle issues with Addons Modules that are not developed by PrestaShop. As I said, if you are facing any issues with a module that is third party developer's, you should try contacting the developers of each module, because I am sure that if you send them your screenshots and more details of what is going on they will solve all the issues that you are pointing to. And if they cannot fix it, then they (the third party developers) will approve your refund and you will be able to get it from our administrative department with no more back and forth problems. 

 

Thanks

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Maggie We had one developer who told us he already sent in his request for refund to us and yet we still have not received it from PrestaShop. $269.99  Another one of the modules in question here is the PrestaShop Call Back Module. Have you personally taken the time to look at this module? Do you not notice the grammar used on the front end is Broken English that cannot be changed? Is this acceptable by you and PrestaShop? I also noticed that you chose not to address the Voucher Code field and our difficulty in being able to locate it. It does not even display on mobile devices. Have you looked for yourself at that? If it is in truth your job to help then why not do that and make right what can be made right? 

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Here we have yet another issue that has surfaced out of the horror that has been our experience with purchasing bug infested modules on PrestaShops Add-on store while PrestaShop Support continues to refuse us any relief. The latest module and only one of the two we had left out of the 8 we purchased caused our shops site to be taken down last night and today for over 12 hours for exceeding CPU resources! There were 8 pages of nothing but this nearly 80,000 request per hour! 

 

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As I already said this went on and on I am only showing here the first half of one page. And now PrestaShop Support will tell us that we must let yet another developer enter our sites backend CPanel or FTP and Admin Section and allow them to work out their bugs while they use our site and time and resources to fix a module that is supposedly from a so-called "Certified Agency" of PrestaShop!
 
What of the 6 plus hours I had to be on the phone with our provider just trying to get these restrictions removed? What of all our visitors who showed up to a site down during a holiday week? And I could ramble on and on with this travesty!! Just read the emails from our Hosting provider below.  
 
"Hello,
 
Your account has been abusing CPU resources for an extended period of time and has been disabled in order to ensure continued performance stability of the account and server. While we do limit each account to no more than 25% of a system's CPU in our terms of service, we do not actively disable accounts until they greatly exceed that number, which is what happened in this case.
 
Please take a moment to review this email in full as it contains important information and resources to assist you in resolving this issue. Please note that this permanent restriction requires you take further actions to gain access to and resolve the issues on your account. 
 
Howdy,
 
Thank you for getting back with us. It appears an onslaught of requests to your livechat (which seems to no longer exist) is causing excessive usage: 
 
 
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We are a simple non profit organization, that is all. I have only been sharing with everyone what I have in hope that something will change and others will be aware of what really goes on with these modules and there related purchases and just one customers horrible experience. All the technical stuff has come directly from our developers and the HostGator reps we have worked with to get all these issues worked out. Hope that helps. 

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With a live chat, nothing can really change. They are resource intensive because they have to constantly check to see if something has been entered. They generally are actually drop in services that cost a monthly fee. If you have enough server resources then you can run one from your own server. 

 

I would actually suggest this module, http://addons.prestashop.com/en/advertising-marketing-newsletter-modules/10553-livechat-olark-pro.html It offloads the chat to olark and they are a pretty good chat platform. Zopim is also popular as well. 

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Thanks I have been looking at that Zopim I even seen a plug in offered free for it (link below) but I could not tell if it was safe for PS1.6 or not and also if it would require any coding on my end. I will look at that other one you mentioned, thank you for that. 

 

http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/233362-module-zopim-chat-build-own-widget-for-free/

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Hi Robs,

 

We're really sorry to read that you encountered all those problems from the modules you bought, that never should've happened.

About the 20% promotion for Christmas, the offer clearly stated that it was only available for modules that had been developed by the PrestaShop team, and not modules developed by the community, so that's the reason why the discount hasn't been deducted from your purchase.

 

Also, as Maggie explained, if you're running into an issue about a specific module, only its developer can provide you support for it. Did you contacted them all, separated, according to the module that doesn't work? You can do it by clicking on the "contact the developer"'s link on the module page. 

 

If you want to get a refund, the developer has to confirm us the refund. If we don't receive any confirmation, we cannot refund the module. 

 

I would also appreciate that you post your order number so I can take a deeper look at it.

 

Thank you, and I wish you all a happy new year :)

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Samyah thank you for your response and I appreciate it coming from a spirit that is not so defensive. Our order numbers are below. We understand now that the discount offered was only available for modules that had been developed by the PrestaShop team. That was our oversight and we will live with it. But what has not been addressed and is still very troubling is that for the three modules that were developed by Prestashop we have yet to receive any discount for the two we did keep (that were actually usable) nor have we received a refund for the one (Call Back) that was totally useless. They also are listed below. The real sad thing here is that when we asked about this discount being applied to our account the response we received was totally unacceptable. Please see my first post (second paragraph) for more details on that.  Thanks

 

> Order #269465 & Order #269223

Abandoned Cart Reminder Pro
By PrestaShop 









Box Notification (Popup)
By PrestaShop 








Call Back

 

 

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Hi RobS,

 

Happy new year!

 

I saw that our team accepted the refund of the following modules:

 

- live chat module

- MP3 preview module

- Request a call back.

I hope this will satisfy you. Don't hesitate to reach me if you have any further question. 

 

Have a great day :)

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post-293799-0-78830200-1420520762_thumb.pngpost-293799-0-47005700-1420520801_thumb.pngHi Samyah thank you for the continued flow up. Yes I received a refund for Request for Callback. I was told by the developers of the other two modules that they did accept the refund request although I have not yet received anything back. What really strikes me as odd is why PrestaShop itself has not responded back to me for the modules we purchased from them. As I mentioned in my original post, I purchased the three following made by PrestaShop modules during their 20% off Christmas sale.

 

1. Abandoned Cart Reminder Pro

2. Box Notification 

3. Call Back

 

The sale had a voucher code. But when we went to our cart and tried to checkout, the problem was that the place where you were supposed to enter this code could not be found by myself and two of our other staff members as we were all looking for it together at the same time. We literally had three people in our office who could not find it. So we proceeded with our purchase thinking this would not be a problem. We thought all we would have to do is contact PrestaShop Customer Support first thing Monday morning and they would surely honor the discount and make everything right. They refused to apply the discount telling us it was our mistake for not entering the code. When we asked them to point out where this code was supposed to be entered this was even more troubling. See the screenshot and look and see for yourself if you can find it. Either way to me this was a very innocent and honest oversight especially with the print being so very tiny and hard to see AND the fact that it does not even display at all on mobile devices which two of us were on that day. I cannot for the life of me understand why they would refuse us this discount. On top of this the module called Call Back was denied a refund by PrestaShop and I can only assume this because they never even responded to us for this request. The reason for us asking is because the module came with broken english without any way to change it. See attached for a screenshot of this. Notice where it reads " Please enter your phone number, we remind you less than three hours". We remind you less than three hours? Perhaps this is a personal preference that we wish to present ourselves to our visits with proper englisg but either way we should not be forced to use this or be denied a refund if they are not willing to help us fix it. The settings on this module also cannot be changed. Tell me would you set a call back with someone for 12 hours away? Sure call me back in 12 hours and we remind you in three? Really?Anyways, why all the trouble to refund for a module that clearly has issues and the fact that they will not even work with you to correct or change anything? 

 

As to the other post on the Abandon Cart module we have found that it is creating free discount codes for every email it sends our even though we have that option completely turned off. Again no real help with getting that fixed either. Thanks

 

 

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Hi RobS,

 

I understand your disappointment and I'm truly sorry it happened this way.
 

The Addons marketplace works...like a marketplace. We allow developers from our community to develop and sell their own module. They are responsible of all their sales and MUST provide client support. If you buy a module from them and that you run into some technical issues, the procedure is to contact them directly from the product page of the module and not from the Addons form that displays in the footer.

From there, the developer has to either provide you a technical help, either accept to refund you. But PrestaShop needs his answer (which must be valid). We can't process to the refund ourselves directly, we intervene when the customer has a serious problem with his purchase (when for example a developer refuse a refund while it's not justified). This is how refunds work when you buy a module developed by the community, we are intermediaries in that situation. 

When you buy a module that has been developed by the PrestaShop team directly, the process is to contact the Addons team through the form that displays in the footer on Addons, to get a direct help from our developers, and customer support by our support service. 

About the voucher you mentionned, the "use code" section appears just under the "total" field. Maybe you didn't find this clearly recognizable, but the field was there and it still is. We can't refund a voucher. Our support team has been in touch with you by telephone to help you about this. 

 

You asked refunds about the community's modules you bought, and the developers accepted them. That's the best that they can do.  

 

Thank you for your understanding and have a good day! 

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So I have been patiently watching this thread to see where it ended up.  The refund issues aside for the community modules, I am stuck here wondering why Prestashop is not researching the issue with the coupon code on a mobile device.

 

It has been clearly stated several times by RobS that when using a mobile device, there is no where to enter the coupon code. 

 

I just assumed PS addons team would have rectified this issue, or addressed it.  So I have now tried it myself 8 days later, and still there is no where that I can enter a coupon code on a mobile device.  It is clearly shown on a desktop browser, however not on the mobile device browser.

 

So it really leaves me wondering ...

1) Is Prestashop going to fix this issue?  I cannot tell from this thread that PS even acknowledges the issue...

2) Is the fact that the customer could not provide a coupon code during the checkout process the customer's fault, or the addons website fault?

 

Why wouldn't Prestashop in good faith provide a full or partial refund for this type of issue?

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Hi Bellini,

 

The issue that RobS is facing is different. Indeed, the voucher field don't display on Addons when you use a device, but RobS clearly said that they were 3 to look at the same time at this field on desktop and then, on a device. The field is showing on desktop without any problem. So, to answer to your question:

 

1) Yes, our developers are on it

2) This point has many times been explained to RobS by our customer service by telephone and by Magali and me. Xavier, Magali and I are Community Managers, we redirect the queries of the community on the forum. We can't go against our support service's decisions, as they have been cleared out with RobS.

Our support service has been in contact with RobS and explained to him why they couldn't process to the refund of the voucher code. Plus, the three other modules had been refunded as he asked for. 

 

RobS, our support team will take a look at your order again, we will come back to you very soon. If you have any further question, feel free to contact me.

I close the topic.

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