SuperCharlie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I started a thread in the general forum about whether 1.4.x was mobile friendly and it kinda died a quiet death of..ya.. you can wrench it with css.. This question is for 1.5.x and whether it has any mobile considerations or if it is another case of..ya.. you can jack around and make it work.. I have a non-profit client who is writing grant requests ($$$$) for a mobile friendly ecom solution and I need to know if PS is the solution or if I should go look somewhere else. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Dream Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) You can look for info here: http://mobile.prestashop.com/en/ http://www.prestashop.com/en/mobile-app Edited June 7, 2012 by Tropical Dream (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharlie Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Thanks Tropical. Not really the solution I was thinking of.. seems kinda un-intuitive to make someone download and install an app to shop your store. I guess if you're huge like Amazon or Barnes and Noble that would be a good solution but it would piss me off to have to download an app to make one or two purchases. Second thought.. I wouldnt make the purchases. Id go somewhere else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dh42 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I think I was the one in the thread that fizzled out. Prestashop is mobile friendly in the sense that you can install it and use the default template to buy products from a mobile device or a tablet. What I meant by tweaking the css is this; You really should not be using the default theme for production sites. You CAN but it is like using the wordpress default theme. Your site will look generic and not very appealing to people. Most of what people would consider mobile friendly is built into the theme that you use, so every theme has to be mobile friendly, which they are not. Being a developer you really have to look at something like prestashop as a frame work, not a prebuilt site. It has a modular design and functions that you can access and use. At the same time it does have limitations too. You should have a couple mobile devices to test your sites on also. You need a "tool kit" of things you use to test your sites. If I didn't answer your question could you be more specific about what you mean by mobile friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharlie Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Thank you for the reply DH.. and I agree with you for the most part. I do see PS as a framework and I am trying pretty hard to get used to the infrastructure and whatnot. I am a subscriber to RocketThemes. I am a developer and not a designer and my [spam-filter] who is the photoshop goddess has tired of css and graphics.. so its a no brainer to get templates, tweak and modify them and be done. For almost a year now they have included mobile options for their joomla templates. They key off the user agent and deliver small screen versions which can be configured in the backend specifically for iphones and androids..module placements, menuing, etc. I use FF for development and have a useragent switcher which lets me browse sites as different devices..great little add-on. Just today I was having to search out a native small screen ecommerce solution for the client I listed above. I wont drag competitors in here but there are community/free options which key off the user agent string and have custom views for hand-helds. This is the new bar for mid-level development. A clean and concise mobile version. Almost every client I have talked to in the last year asks if the solution is mobile friendly and proceed to surf with their android or iphone. I like PS pretty well, but the thought of having to get in and code up the user agent switcher to swap css and template files for an acceptable small screen experience is more than I want to tackle.. and something that really should be handled in a mid-level web solution. As of now, there is a mobile friendly "standard" which is the site/app has collapsable/expandable menuing, smaller scale graphics, easy navigation and rarely scrolls left-right. A lot of the sites I see look like buttons across the screen which expand/collapse and have one-screen pages for content or carts, checkout, etc..again. with little or no scrolling. This is what my clients expect to see for mobile friendly. In the long run I suspect the platforms of mobile and desktop browsing will merge as the handhelds keep increasing in resolution and functionality..still..its hard to cram that much real estate into a 4 inch screen without scrolling all over or unreadable text. I guess what I was hoping for was an integrated handheld solution here. I like the desktop solution and am in process of launching a site with 1.4.8 but I will probably have to get the mobile versions elsewhere Im afraid. And there is my mobile rant for the evening, thanks for listening..lol SC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dh42 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 User agent switchers have inherit problems and are only really reliable for testing js. They do not render sites as they would look in other browsers. You should try spoon sandbox for that. It is pretty slick and actually installs other browsers on your account. You shouldn't have to code in a user agent switcher either. Just use good coding practices and make sure your site renders on the selection of desktop browsers that you choose to support. Then you can use media queries in your css to make it render differently on mobile devices. Price point is also a consideration. I don't really care to do these things, especially with all of the new devices coming out to try to keep up with. At the same time though, my starting price for setting up a store with a custom template and not uploading any content is around 3-5k. More depending on features they want, so it is worth my while to do it. Prestashop does not have all of the features of some cart software, by no means is it an end all do all. I actually have one customers site that is running 2 installs of prestashop, one install of wordpress, and an install of WHMCS just to get all of the features I needed. One thing you can do if you want to run a totally different look on a mobile site is hybridize an installation. Install on shop at the root of the site, and install another at say the sub domain m. This is where it gets tricky though, have them both feed off the same database. But for the mobile site change the tables for the modules and and site configuration. Then you can share a same customer db, order db, and product db. It is a royal pain to do something like that, but you can create nice effects without relying on a lot of javascript and media queries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharlie Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Lots of useful tips DH.. thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atch Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi, Why not use responsive template for your store Prestashop 1.4. regards, Atch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presty Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Has anyone tried this responsive theme? http://prestashopbootstrap.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dh42 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I personally tend to stay away from bootstraps and other peoples responsive themes. I think of it like a house, someone tells me what they want and I build it. Sure I can convert something into what they want, but I will usually spend more time looking for a base then it would take to design from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestanesia Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 well, there's a mobile theme dispatcher in 1.5.0.9, simply words, if the visitor is using mobile device the theme is redirected to themes\themename\mobile but it seems this feature is missing in latest RC (1.5.0.13). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocothecat Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Within 2 weeks I have a responsive template coming out that works with 1.4.8.2 and 1.5. If your looking for a true cross browser example then building something in a responsive template is the best way to go. If want to see a few examples of my current work drop me a message SuperCharlie, Id be more than happy to work with if you wanted to create a job spec for your client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorator Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 well, there's a mobile theme dispatcher in 1.5.0.9, simply words, if the visitor is using mobile device the theme is redirected to themes\themename\mobile but it seems this feature is missing in latest RC (1.5.0.13). Hello! Anyone know why the mobile theme dispatcher was removed from latest RC (1.5.0.13)? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexique1 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Same question, no answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrej Stas Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Hi, you might be interested in my project Presta-theme-maker.com Create your responsive design in just a few minutes. Edited February 25, 2013 by Andrej Stas (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appliances Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hello Everyone, Regarding the mobile friendly sites, I have enabled the mobile theme on mobile devices and touch pads. However it still shows the full site and doesn't appear to be a mobile/lighter version. If I am misunderstood on its functions can someone please clear up what it does? If this function works properly we wouldn't need to make an app and have customers download it which would be a hassle just like SuperCharlie said. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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