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[Ox40]

All of you that have questions about support for multiple shops, READ THIS

For all of you out there who need multiple shop support - PrestaShop does not currently offer it
Multi-Shop support is not even in a beta phase as of now, it will require serious effort and alot of time for the PrestaShop Dev Team to develop this feature.
There is also no Multi-Shop enabling module, nor do I expect one to be developed any time soon. PS's hooks render it almost impossible to create a module to enable multiple shops in a modular fashion.
Either way, the PrestaShop Dev Team is spending alot of time making PrestaShop 1.1 bug-free, I don't expect this feature to be available any time soon.

If you want this feature, voice your request in the Feature Request Tool located within the Bug Tracker, as the solution would be changes to CORE PrestaShop files, not a module. We do not need yet another thread asking for multi-shop support on this forum. ;)


--Kevin Klika

[Matthieu Biart]

Hi Ox40!

Thank you for this point which I confirm ;-)

I just want to add that we are currently working on the multi-shop feature.
The conception stage is completed and we'll soon start the development.
So the only thing I can say about a date/release version is that it won't be included on the 1.2 final version nor on the 1.3
But the final release following the 1.3 final may implement it. If that's not the case, it will be implemented two (final) versions after the 1.3 final.

[Matthieu Biart]

Hi everyone!

Since this thread became a real mess and is quite old I decided to clean it up and to actualize it ;-)

First (as I said 6 months ago) I confirm that the multishop feature will NOT be released on the PrestaShop 1.3 version.

Second, here is a glimps of what we are thinking about:

- unlimited shops from a unique Back Office

- subdomain management

- a different template for each store

- different languages for each store

- different modules for each store

- different configuration for each store (so having a BtoB shop and a BtoC one would be possible)

Third, the multishop feature went back to the conceptual step because of some extra issues we got (you can have a look on the forum to understand the complexity of this feature. Even merchants do not share the same idea about it.) but rest assured the development will start very soon.

Last, thank you to NOT post any reply such as "Have a look on those shops I'd like to link to the same PrestaShop", "I'm gonna love this feature"...
This thread is a "Read this first!" reserved for making a point on our progression and avoid repetitive questions.

PS: Apologies for the few interesting replies I've deleted but I needed to emphasized the main information. Moreover their content is now kind of part of my second point ;-)
PS2: Concerning community contributions such as modules or hack in order to get an alternative multishop feature. They are still welcomed but not on this thread (as I said reserved to our progression). Please create new ones.

Edit: the official multishop feature will be part of the PrestaShop core and consequently "completely free".

[Fabrice]

Hi Matthieu !
Is there any "fresh" news about the dev of these features ?
tks for your feed back ;-)

[prestasimo]

Hi,

I don'"t now if it's the right place for me to do this comment but how ever it is important!

I have some experience on Magento and what is missing there is major:
Multishop allow customer to purchase in different stores and to checkout with one cart.

Make shore to have individual shipping cost per shop!

Thank you for your fantastic work!

Kind regards.

[Danman]

Best Matthieu Biart!

Are there any news or update on the work for the multishop feature in Prestashop?
It´s been quiet for a while now and it would nice to know if it´s still on track.

Thanks a lot for your good work!

[truecredit]

this answers the biggest question I had, thanks!

[Fabri]

Hi all!

Since the last time a Dev commented here was back in February, I don't think it's bad to ask again! (Also, my business depends on this feature...)

Is this still in track? Do you have an estimated date to launch this feature? That's OK if you remove this comment but please give us some light, at least some words about this issue!

Thanks to the great Devs as usual! :)

[Katmatcreations]

Why doesnt prestashop fix things that need to be fixed before they go adding minor features?

The interface is terrible for the customer (5 screen checkout wtf? hasnt changed since version 1.1! ) and Presta has no idea on how to engage and build the developer community!

[jimmyc]

Hi Matthieu,
I posted this in the feature requests but thought it might be suitable for discussion here.
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I would like to see prestashop with the option to allow drop ship vendors to manage their own stores within my prestashop. This would be a mall style shop that automatically split payments on orders so I can receive a small admin defined percentage commission on each sale and shipping price through pay-pal or other gateway.

Store owners would have their own individual stores to sell from within my mall setup. The ACL allowing them to receive their own sales emails and access packing slips, input tracking numbers and so on.
Leaving me as admin to promote the mall and allowing vendors to manage the sales, shipping and customer questions through their own chat style contact page.
Is this type of store setup in planned future versions of Prestashop? I think this system would make the prestashop cms unbeatable.

[Katmatcreations]

From 1284949882:

Hi Matthieu,
I posted this in the feature requests but thought it might be suitable for discussion here.
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I would like to see prestashop with the option to allow drop ship vendors to manage their own stores within my prestashop. This would be a mall style shop that automatically split payments on orders so I can receive a small admin defined percentage commission on each sale and shipping price through pay-pal or other gateway.

Store owners would have their own individual stores to sell from within my mall setup. The ACL allowing them to receive their own sales emails and access packing slips, input tracking numbers and so on.
Leaving me as admin to promote the mall and allowing vendors to manage the sales, shipping and customer questions through their own chat style contact page.
Is this type of store setup in planned future versions of Prestashop? I think this system would make the prestashop cms unbeatable.

On the payment side of things it is indeed possible to have a multi shop running with the core shop purely acting as a "Gateway" similar to eBay or reseller sites, my PayPal Total module in development now could easily process multiple payments within the one transaction with the core shop owner taking a % of each product sold and final payment being automatically passed on to the "Drop shipper" or product lister/Agent.

presta wont be able to handle it in its current state with some of the things they have done with the Schema. The product end of things really kills it although the way they do items in carts really screws it.

[jimmyc]

Hi Katmatcreations,

So are you saying the multi-store option is not viable, but for a single vendor dropshipper site it would work?
If so, does your PayPal module take a flat percentage of all sales including shipping (good), or will it also be capable of calculating single product cost price (wholesale) and then calculate the profit margin minus any coupon discounts that may have been applied by my store and pass the profit (if any) on to my paypal account? (great)

Either way this module is relevant to my interests! Do you have an estimated release date?

[Katmatcreations]

From 1284963883:

Hi Katmatcreations,

So are you saying the multi-store option is not viable, but for a single vendor dropshipper site it would work?
If so, does your PayPal module take a flat percentage of all sales including shipping (good), or will it also be capable of calculating single product cost price (wholesale) and then calculate the profit margin minus any coupon discounts that may have been applied by my store and pass the profit (if any) on to my paypal account? (great)

Either way this module is relevant to my interests! Do you have an estimated release date?

Transacting as a gateway is easy, the problem is presta doesnt natively support it. Ive actually been thinking of a way to force it to be able to store product level information cause for it to work properly its going to have to store some extra info at the product level that it will then use in the end calculation.

To answer your question it can do both, transact as a % or as a flat rate. i already have a site that ive built (not using presta) that allows me to operate as a gateway between buyer and seller (www.GoSqueesh.com).

ETA on the PayPal Total Module is about 3 weeks but depends on PayPals approval process, for the advanced stuff we are talking about here its going to need further development but entirely possible depending on what the presta guys do. Im sure the presta developers know the limitations with the presta schema ive been talking about.

Maybe one day soon they will listen to developers properly ;)

[Katmatcreations]

I worked out how to get this to work this morning while i was walking (it hit me like a brick lol), actually its not too hard and will suit both models suggested here.

Problem is im not going to get time for a while to test and implement but ive built functionality into the PayPal Total module plan so it can be done at a later time.

[kodeplay]

Hello

we have developed a shopping mall solution .
feel free to contact us for a demo.

each seller (admin) will have a store and receive an admin panel .
the mall owner (super admin ) will have a global admin and will receive a commission on the sales in the stores

Thanks and regards ,

Karan Ahuja
http://www.kodeplay.com

[rmarques]

Look at http://www.lot.my

These guys created an awesome system of multi stores under one domain using OpenCart. The advantage of this system is to have one installation of opencart to run all the stores.

Development of a multi store system with an open source cart hasn't succeeded until this moment because people are talking about complicated things, super advanced features, chat, mall, bloated systems, etc. Please forget about all these things and concentrate in simple things.

The guys at www.lot.my simply developed a way to run multiple independent stores in subdomains with only one opencart installation. The store owner creates his account, gets a subdomain name for his store, chooses his payment methods, edit designs and pay a small monthly fee to use the store. (Lot.my is actually free...) Forget about commissions to the administrator, store owners hate that! Just a small monthly fee is more than enough to cover costs.

I believe a system like www.lot.my could be easily implemented using prestashop.

Other good examples to look at: http://www.bigcartel.com, http://hyenacart.com

[Fre-do]

Multistore with prestashop without changing prestashop source code : http://www.live133.ddlx.fr/index.php

[hellothere]

Fre-do,
is there any documentation for how you accomplished this?
Alternately, does anyone know of a timetable of when this functionality will be implemented? If not v. 1.4, can we expect it in 1.5?
Given the previous 18 months of development, could we expect a 1.5 in the third quarter of next year (ie before september 2011?).
Just in time for the holidays next year...

thank you Prestashop!

F

BTW Fre-do, how did you accomplish the page turning effect in the upper right corner?? That is SLICK!! very nice.

[Stefand]

Fredo, can you tell me how it works?

More information is not wrong!!!

[Floobynooby]

Would the multi shop feature work for managing stock on both shops where if there are 50 items and one shop sells 20 both will then only have 30 items to sell?